1 00:01:01,939 --> 00:00:17,860 [Music] 2 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:04,829 and good evening from Philadelphia Frank 3 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:07,450 here with yet another episode of UFO 4 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:09,670 news network Sunday tonight on a 5 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:12,310 Wednesday we're out of lockdown edition 6 00:01:18,570 --> 00:01:15,310 back to work after my extended 8 week 7 00:01:20,999 --> 00:01:18,580 paid vacation so it was fun while it 8 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:21,009 lasted but last week it was back to work 9 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:23,320 and now it's time to get back to work 10 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:26,800 and talk about some UFO news a little 11 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:28,810 bit has gone on since I did my last 12 00:01:34,010 --> 00:01:30,910 update a few things that are worth 13 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:34,020 discussing so I will get to them right 14 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:38,350 away here basically a few things have 15 00:01:43,529 --> 00:01:40,810 gone on that are worth covering and so 16 00:01:45,779 --> 00:01:43,539 let's get right to it as I suggested 17 00:01:48,770 --> 00:01:45,789 during our last show that it was quite 18 00:01:51,389 --> 00:01:48,780 likely we'd be seeing some sort of large 19 00:01:54,059 --> 00:01:51,399 mainstream media coverage of the UFO 20 00:01:57,540 --> 00:01:54,069 topic in preparation for the premiere of 21 00:02:01,080 --> 00:01:57,550 season 2 of unidentified we have not 22 00:02:03,779 --> 00:02:01,090 gotten that that date from for the 23 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:03,789 premiere of season 2 supposedly it was 24 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:05,890 according to Cox cable it was going to 25 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:08,800 be sometime this month but this coming 26 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:12,220 Friday is the last Friday in May and it 27 00:02:15,869 --> 00:02:13,660 has not happened it's not on the 28 00:02:18,660 --> 00:02:15,879 schedule so almost certainly it is going 29 00:02:21,390 --> 00:02:18,670 to come out at some point that in June 30 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:21,400 we'll probably see it some Friday or 31 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:24,640 another maybe next Friday sometime in 32 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:26,680 June I'm sure that we'll see it but we 33 00:02:32,010 --> 00:02:29,560 did see the New York Times story and it 34 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:32,020 came out a couple weeks back and 35 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:35,020 basically Navy reports described 36 00:02:39,630 --> 00:02:36,940 encounters with unexplained flying 37 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:39,640 objects none of these particular cases 38 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:43,870 are especially extraordinary but what 39 00:02:49,229 --> 00:02:47,170 they do reveal is that when these pilots 40 00:02:51,690 --> 00:02:49,239 do encounter something that they can't 41 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:51,700 necessarily identify or something along 42 00:02:58,050 --> 00:02:54,610 those lines that they are in fact 43 00:03:01,589 --> 00:02:58,060 written up in reports a flight hazard 44 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:01,599 reports so basically on April 23rd 2014 45 00:03:06,119 --> 00:03:04,030 two objects were tracked on radar not 46 00:03:08,339 --> 00:03:06,129 communicating and two other relatively 47 00:03:10,559 --> 00:03:08,349 small objects were observed at the same 48 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:10,569 time flying at high speed off the coast 49 00:03:13,980 --> 00:03:11,740 of Virginia and other 50 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:13,990 it states the events were said to pose a 51 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:17,710 severe threat to Naval Aviation it's 52 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:19,090 only a matter of time before this 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:22,570 results in a mid-air in w72 the report 54 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:24,850 said using the airspace designation 55 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:26,980 this was the squadron's second 56 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:29,170 occurrence in the last 10 months the 57 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:31,000 most recent incident included in the 58 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:33,310 Freedom of Information Act documents did 59 00:03:38,310 --> 00:03:34,720 not appear to be related to an 60 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:38,320 unidentified flying object a red weather 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:40,630 balloon was spotted at 27,000 feet by 62 00:03:44,820 --> 00:03:42,730 four aircraft when none were supposed to 63 00:03:46,110 --> 00:03:44,830 be in the area the report concluded 64 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:46,120 weather balloon released without 65 00:03:49,850 --> 00:03:47,980 notifying the appropriate channels 66 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:49,860 I suspect that kind of thing goes on 67 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:53,710 fairly regularly now in conjunction well 68 00:03:58,590 --> 00:03:56,080 not that in conjunction but roughly the 69 00:04:01,290 --> 00:03:58,600 same time this New York Times article 70 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:01,300 came out a far more detailed article 71 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:04,180 came out in the war zone and what we've 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:07,720 got here is a little bit pulled from 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:10,930 that the Jets crew visually acquired it 74 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:12,610 as they saw it passed down the right 75 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:14,230 side of their aircraft with 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:16,060 approximately 200 feet of lateral 77 00:04:21,420 --> 00:04:18,130 separation while flying at an altitude 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:21,430 of 17,000 feet it was climbing and had a 79 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:23,770 visible exhaust trail that certainly 80 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:25,720 doesn't sound too extraterrestrial to me 81 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,730 but these sort of things do happen and 82 00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:29,440 when they do they do get written up 83 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:32,260 let's see another incident at around 84 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:35,340 12,000 feet us speed of approximately 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:38,560 0.1 mocs are roughly 75 miles an hour 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:41,410 not super fast the aircraft that had an 87 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:43,330 approximately 5 foot wingspan and was 88 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,070 colored white with no other 89 00:04:50,850 --> 00:04:46,960 distinguishable features according to 90 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,860 the pilot tracked for an hour and then 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:52,720 another one the unknown aircraft 92 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:54,370 appeared to be small in size 93 00:04:57,750 --> 00:04:56,440 approximately the size of a suitcase and 94 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:57,760 silver in color 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:00,160 the pilot was only able to pass within a 96 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:01,450 thousand feet of it and could not 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:03,850 identify it well it's a pretty small 98 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:05,410 object but a thousand feet when you're 99 00:05:08,610 --> 00:05:06,850 up in the air it's pretty close actually 100 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:08,620 that's you know three football fields 101 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:10,540 away that's not that far away really 102 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:14,170 here's another tidbit from another one 103 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:15,490 of the reports the crew initially 104 00:05:21,659 --> 00:05:18,190 detected two UA DS on radar one at 105 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:21,669 12,000 feet another at 15,000 feet both 106 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:23,800 apparently stationary or near stationary 107 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:24,600 they were 108 00:05:29,990 --> 00:05:27,420 firmed then they then confirmed both of 109 00:05:31,730 --> 00:05:30,000 these objects using the Jets advanced 110 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:31,740 targeting forward-looking infra-red 111 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:35,880 system so it looks like that they run 112 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:37,500 into these types of things not 113 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:39,480 infrequently but again these aren't 114 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:42,510 necessarily et but what we do see here 115 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:46,230 and the the drive did release these 116 00:05:50,810 --> 00:05:49,080 documents just a couple so just to give 117 00:05:52,970 --> 00:05:50,820 you an idea of what these kinds of 118 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:52,980 reports look like again nothing really 119 00:05:58,820 --> 00:05:56,640 extraordinary a small objects objects 120 00:06:00,820 --> 00:05:58,830 going now roughly seventy five miles an 121 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:00,830 hour not especially all that quick 122 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:03,840 hardly otherworldly flight capabilities 123 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:06,720 but what you do see is these sorts of 124 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:09,090 things do get written up when they 125 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:12,180 happen so that is a very interesting of 126 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:15,780 course and you know that when the types 127 00:06:19,490 --> 00:06:18,030 of incidents that get our attention a 128 00:06:22,130 --> 00:06:19,500 little bit more the ones that are going 129 00:06:24,260 --> 00:06:22,140 at multi Mach speeds the ones that are 130 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,270 making right angle turns at several 131 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:26,400 thousand miles an hour the ones that are 132 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:29,760 sort of appearing and disappearing and 133 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:32,130 picked up on radar and visually tracked 134 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:34,350 as well those are the types of cases we 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:36,240 want to see and you know they get 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:37,890 documented as well if they're 137 00:06:42,310 --> 00:06:40,170 documenting small stuff like that like 138 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:42,320 these types of cases they're definitely 139 00:06:46,850 --> 00:06:44,850 documenting the larger types of cases as 140 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:46,860 well so it's interesting to see that it 141 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:49,080 is interesting sometimes to run down 142 00:06:57,770 --> 00:06:54,510 these sort of well how could I put it 143 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:57,780 these sorts of cases that merit 144 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:00,780 reporting that get the reaction from 145 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,580 pilots when they're up in the air flying 146 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:04,560 around but you know that's pretty 147 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:06,810 obvious that they're not et if you might 148 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:08,970 remember a couple of years back we 149 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:12,090 discussed it at length here the instance 150 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:14,340 with the number of pilots over Ireland 151 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:17,660 seeing a what I'm convinced was a 152 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:20,270 meteorite coming through the atmosphere 153 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:23,400 they saw it and reacted and we were able 154 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,410 to get audio tape of that that was 155 00:07:30,530 --> 00:07:27,360 released and then someone in the north 156 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:30,540 of Ireland through a car dashcam was 157 00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:32,550 actually able to pick it up flying 158 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:34,380 through the air and that pretty much 159 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:36,150 matched what one of the pilot was 160 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:38,430 describing right to a tee so you 161 00:07:43,910 --> 00:07:41,250 that was pretty obviously a meteorite 162 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:43,920 and that when a pilot says yeah hey that 163 00:07:48,350 --> 00:07:45,660 was a that was a bowl line that was a 164 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:48,360 meteorite I tend to believe him when a 165 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:50,490 pilot like in one of these reports 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:53,400 describes what looked like to him like a 167 00:07:57,530 --> 00:07:55,170 quadcopter it probably was a quadcopter 168 00:08:00,200 --> 00:07:57,540 I'll take his word on that and also when 169 00:08:02,510 --> 00:08:00,210 a pilot says I see something that defied 170 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:02,520 the known laws of physics I tend to 171 00:08:06,970 --> 00:08:04,710 believe that too so I believe the 172 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:06,980 witnesses and that we've got again some 173 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:09,810 relatively mundane cases nothing out of 174 00:08:16,010 --> 00:08:12,090 the ordinary but again we see that just 175 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:16,020 about everything that merits reporting 176 00:08:19,370 --> 00:08:18,000 gets reported and you know obviously 177 00:08:23,690 --> 00:08:19,380 we're seeing that here in black and 178 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:23,700 white and again these cases are 179 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:27,360 described as a potential aviation hazard 180 00:08:33,170 --> 00:08:30,300 or a aviation threat now this comes from 181 00:08:34,670 --> 00:08:33,180 the civilian ranks but you see in just 182 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:34,680 about anything and everything is 183 00:08:40,460 --> 00:08:36,930 regarded as a threat in terms of 184 00:08:43,730 --> 00:08:40,470 aviation obviously weather of course you 185 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:43,740 know also birds or regard as a threat 186 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:45,540 anything that that might distract the 187 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:48,720 crew within the cabin when that they're 188 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:50,610 trying to fly the plane that can be 189 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,500 regarded as a threat an interruption 190 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:54,240 that whatever the case may be and of 191 00:08:59,060 --> 00:08:57,120 course the UFO by definition would would 192 00:08:59,960 --> 00:08:59,070 qualify there you're looking out the 193 00:09:01,310 --> 00:08:59,970 window and you see something 194 00:09:02,780 --> 00:09:01,320 extraordinary you're not paying 195 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:02,790 attention to what you're doing as far as 196 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:04,200 that what you need to be doing it in 197 00:09:11,210 --> 00:09:07,260 terms of flying the plane so so there's 198 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:11,220 that and that is about as far as the eye 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:13,350 would go in terms of describing do I 200 00:09:17,870 --> 00:09:15,930 pose a threat just in the same sense 201 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:17,880 that the birds are a threat whether is a 202 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:19,710 threat distractions in the cabin or a 203 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:22,410 threat yeah technically by the very 204 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:26,250 tight standards of aviation that by 205 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:28,110 their definition yeah UFOs would be a 206 00:09:33,620 --> 00:09:30,750 threat in that standard but don't see 207 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:33,630 any evidence that the UFOs per se or any 208 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,300 kind of a widespread existential threat 209 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:38,160 to humanity or national defense or 210 00:09:41,270 --> 00:09:39,930 anything along those lines I'll get into 211 00:09:44,030 --> 00:09:41,280 that a little bit more later on but 212 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:44,040 that's basically the sum up obviously 213 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:46,890 that New York Times story did come come 214 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:49,170 to pass just as I was suggesting not 215 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:51,360 necessarily at times but something 216 00:09:54,290 --> 00:09:52,050 high-profile 217 00:09:57,790 --> 00:09:54,300 but the times it was and rather 218 00:10:01,160 --> 00:09:57,800 interestingly enough ralph Blumenthal 219 00:10:03,739 --> 00:10:01,170 involved in writing that story up also 220 00:10:06,199 --> 00:10:03,749 is apparently taking a closer look at 221 00:10:09,069 --> 00:10:06,209 the Wilson notes he actually reached out 222 00:10:11,299 --> 00:10:09,079 to our old pal Michael W hall and 223 00:10:13,460 --> 00:10:11,309 chatted with Michael about the notes a 224 00:10:15,619 --> 00:10:13,470 little bit and Michael gave him some 225 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:15,629 feedback he gave some nice kudos to 226 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:17,970 chant Hannah and regarding her interview 227 00:10:23,239 --> 00:10:20,730 with commander will Miller didn't 228 00:10:25,429 --> 00:10:23,249 exactly make the the skeptical case that 229 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:25,439 we've been making here for just about a 230 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:27,720 year now regarding these notes and it 231 00:10:35,929 --> 00:10:30,720 basically gave it the the probe the pro 232 00:10:38,869 --> 00:10:35,939 notes spin which is not exactly fully 233 00:10:40,939 --> 00:10:38,879 accurately I mean he didn't he didn't 234 00:10:44,299 --> 00:10:40,949 present that Blumenthal with any missed 235 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:44,309 ruse but he also didn't provide any sort 236 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:47,519 of a skeptical push back either and so 237 00:10:53,989 --> 00:10:50,850 it wasn't entirely a fair presentation 238 00:10:56,359 --> 00:10:53,999 to Blumenthal I don't know exactly if 239 00:10:59,449 --> 00:10:56,369 they're going to follow up on this 240 00:11:01,220 --> 00:10:59,459 if Blumenthal is or to what extent my 241 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:01,230 advice would be hey now if you want to 242 00:11:05,629 --> 00:11:02,730 take a look at those notes and use them 243 00:11:07,939 --> 00:11:05,639 as leads to try to dig in and find out 244 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:07,949 what was going on regarding UFOs and 245 00:11:12,939 --> 00:11:10,649 special access projects back in the you 246 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:12,949 know the late nineties the early 2000s 247 00:11:16,999 --> 00:11:14,970 anywhere in that time frame hey 248 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:17,009 something was going on with UFOs we know 249 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:19,980 it has been since 1947 and we don't 250 00:11:24,049 --> 00:11:22,049 really have a lot of information about 251 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:24,059 what specifically happened back then I 252 00:11:31,609 --> 00:11:26,910 certainly wouldn't take these ginned up 253 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:31,619 documents as any kind of a true full 254 00:11:35,329 --> 00:11:33,660 story of what happened in those days any 255 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:35,339 more than I would take the majestic 12 256 00:11:40,249 --> 00:11:37,889 documents as any sort of true full 257 00:11:43,009 --> 00:11:40,259 history of what happened with UFOs 258 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:43,019 during the Truman administration but 259 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:45,540 again they could provide some leads at 260 00:11:48,139 --> 00:11:47,910 some interesting things that may come of 261 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:48,149 it 262 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:50,459 I do just mention again in passing that 263 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:52,079 if it wasn't for those majestic 12 264 00:11:56,629 --> 00:11:55,110 documents which I did use for leads and 265 00:11:58,519 --> 00:11:56,639 for follow-up when I was relatively new 266 00:12:02,150 --> 00:11:58,529 to researching this I would never have 267 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:02,160 found the the the meeting in the White 268 00:12:07,829 --> 00:12:04,990 House or regarding the DC 1950 269 00:12:09,740 --> 00:12:07,839 - UFO case which I wrote up over at the 270 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:09,750 website you can go take a look at that 271 00:12:19,019 --> 00:12:14,560 UFO partisan dot blog spot.com go take a 272 00:12:21,329 --> 00:12:19,029 look at that and that well you know I I 273 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:21,339 make a pretty good argument that that's 274 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:22,990 exactly what that particular meeting was 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:26,920 about about the 1952 case so yeah I 276 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:30,850 think sometimes this what I would regard 277 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:33,490 as essentially disinformation might 278 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:36,100 again provide some leads because a lot 279 00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:38,170 of times it's disinformation that's been 280 00:12:42,930 --> 00:12:39,550 floated around it's pretty well 281 00:12:45,630 --> 00:12:42,940 researched so it's worth it but what you 282 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:45,640 shouldn't do I in my opinion what you 283 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:48,310 shouldn't do is take these as fact that 284 00:12:52,889 --> 00:12:50,800 the docs exist therefore they must be 285 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:52,899 true which is what I think a lot of the 286 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:55,540 product people are doing I think that is 287 00:12:59,970 --> 00:12:57,040 unfortunate I mean Michael's done it 288 00:13:02,220 --> 00:12:59,980 certainly Richard Dolan has done it that 289 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:02,230 Grant Cameron still doing it and I do 290 00:13:06,630 --> 00:13:03,910 want to bring up a little point 291 00:13:09,630 --> 00:13:06,640 regarding a speech that how putt-off 292 00:13:12,569 --> 00:13:09,640 gave we discussed this a couple of news 293 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:12,579 shows back chant and I discussed this 294 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:14,770 where a put off was speaking in West 295 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:17,110 Virginia at an event that put together 296 00:13:22,170 --> 00:13:20,050 by John Peterson and at that particular 297 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:22,180 event he gave his presentation then 298 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:24,910 answered a number of questions and one 299 00:13:30,780 --> 00:13:26,410 of the questions was of course about 300 00:13:32,819 --> 00:13:30,790 these Wilson notes and we we knew about 301 00:13:35,250 --> 00:13:32,829 the speech at the time that which and I 302 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:35,260 discussed it but what we didn't know at 303 00:13:44,069 --> 00:13:40,200 that point in time was that basically 304 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:44,079 cut-offs post-mordem is a description of 305 00:13:49,139 --> 00:13:46,630 the event was actually pretty accurate 306 00:13:50,670 --> 00:13:49,149 now I'll explain a little bit there he 307 00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:50,680 does his presentation and then there's a 308 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:52,750 Q&A session one of the questions is 309 00:14:00,030 --> 00:13:56,529 about the Wilson notes and basically 310 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:00,040 what he does is he repeats the question 311 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:01,630 because apparently they had some sound 312 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:04,480 system issues at the event so when he's 313 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:07,180 asked a question he basically repeats it 314 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:08,800 and so somebody asked him about the 315 00:14:12,750 --> 00:14:10,990 Wilson Docs and he says essentially that 316 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:12,760 though the Wilson DOCSIS is about a 317 00:14:17,749 --> 00:14:16,360 meeting that took place between Eric 318 00:14:20,479 --> 00:14:17,759 Davis and 319 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:20,489 Admiral Thomas Wilson so and also he's 320 00:14:23,869 --> 00:14:21,689 asked some other questions where 321 00:14:26,359 --> 00:14:23,879 basically he sort of lays out and 322 00:14:29,359 --> 00:14:26,369 repeats the question now I've seen the 323 00:14:31,689 --> 00:14:29,369 transcript up from this particular Q&A 324 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:31,699 session and that is exactly what happens 325 00:14:38,449 --> 00:14:35,970 Dolan contacts have put off directly and 326 00:14:40,549 --> 00:14:38,459 put off explains yes so you know what I 327 00:14:42,289 --> 00:14:40,559 was really doing was repeating the the 328 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:42,299 question I wasn't confirming anything I 329 00:14:55,069 --> 00:14:52,529 was just repeating the question and yeah 330 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:55,079 we sorry about that I was just repeating 331 00:14:59,019 --> 00:14:56,970 the question and I wasn't really 332 00:15:01,999 --> 00:14:59,029 confirming anything of course Dolan 333 00:15:04,489 --> 00:15:02,009 accuses him of lying you know so so 334 00:15:07,249 --> 00:15:04,499 there's that you know with what does he 335 00:15:09,229 --> 00:15:07,259 base that on and now I don't hang on 336 00:15:11,689 --> 00:15:09,239 every word that Richard Dolan or great 337 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:11,699 camera and say about all this but I hear 338 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:13,470 or nothing I certainly heard that he may 339 00:15:18,139 --> 00:15:16,049 after the additional information the 340 00:15:20,809 --> 00:15:18,149 transcripts from the Q&A session came 341 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:20,819 out you know he may have you know done 342 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:23,279 the right thing and actually apologized 343 00:15:26,869 --> 00:15:25,199 for calling the guy a liar when he was 344 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:26,879 nice enough to respond to his question 345 00:15:31,819 --> 00:15:29,759 it's like somebody contacts you with a 346 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:31,829 question about something you get back to 347 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:34,169 him now you give him the truth and then 348 00:15:38,989 --> 00:15:36,089 they get back and then they go on that 349 00:15:41,989 --> 00:15:38,999 on their on their little podcast and I 350 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:41,999 call you a liar so that that in my book 351 00:15:46,729 --> 00:15:44,399 is not to cool but that's exactly what 352 00:15:48,829 --> 00:15:46,739 Dolan did I don't know if he's retracted 353 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:48,839 that and apologized for it he certainly 354 00:15:54,859 --> 00:15:52,230 should and also within the last week I 355 00:15:56,779 --> 00:15:54,869 have heard that Grant Cameron saying 356 00:15:59,989 --> 00:15:56,789 that he confirmed it he confirmed that 357 00:16:02,150 --> 00:15:59,999 these notes are legit and in fact you 358 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:02,160 know that that it's not what happened 359 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,529 and again the transcripts which are 360 00:16:08,479 --> 00:16:06,720 available online pretty well indicate 361 00:16:10,249 --> 00:16:08,489 every question he was asked he's 362 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,259 basically repeats the question and that 363 00:16:14,809 --> 00:16:12,480 answers it again because of some sound 364 00:16:17,389 --> 00:16:14,819 system issues so that is that and 365 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:17,399 unfortunately some bad information is 366 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:20,489 getting spun by a Dolan and of course by 367 00:16:24,889 --> 00:16:22,529 Grant honest that is not what happened 368 00:16:26,809 --> 00:16:24,899 at all he's never done any such thing 369 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:26,819 he's never confirmed that in that case 370 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,350 but one thing that Grant did mentioned 371 00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:30,320 in this interview that I heard 372 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:32,660 it was I guess it was last week now with 373 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:34,610 the holiday and all I can't remember 374 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:37,250 exactly what I listened to what but last 375 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:39,890 week yeah he did he said quite 376 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,410 inaccurately that put off did in fact 377 00:16:46,450 --> 00:16:44,240 confirm that the meeting took place but 378 00:16:49,510 --> 00:16:46,460 he also said that these notes are 379 00:16:51,580 --> 00:16:49,520 getting confirmed sort of off the record 380 00:16:53,260 --> 00:16:51,590 privately to a number of individuals I 381 00:16:56,380 --> 00:16:53,270 don't doubt that that's quite accurate 382 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:56,390 because I've heard enough people's you 383 00:17:00,460 --> 00:16:58,370 know enough people have said that 384 00:17:02,110 --> 00:17:00,470 responded to me and to other people oh 385 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:02,120 they're real they're real they're real 386 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:04,850 and of course that means I will tell you 387 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:06,500 from personal experience that means 388 00:17:14,110 --> 00:17:10,850 absolutely nothing I was involved in 389 00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:14,120 some back-and-forth with a member of TTS 390 00:17:19,390 --> 00:17:17,030 a very early on and was being told oh 391 00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:19,400 that not not related to these Wilson 392 00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:20,660 notes this was long before they ever 393 00:17:24,490 --> 00:17:22,100 came forward but it was something else 394 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:24,500 oh this is real this is this is going to 395 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:26,110 happen this is disclosure this is 396 00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:28,910 absolutely going to happen and we've got 397 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:30,590 this this is a hundred percent you know 398 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:32,900 I I believe this off the record of 399 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,210 course and two and a half years later 400 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:37,520 you know we're still where we were about 401 00:17:40,570 --> 00:17:39,440 two and a half years ago maybe know a 402 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:40,580 little bit more about that particular 403 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:42,860 subject but not a whole lot so I can 404 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:43,910 tell you that that don't believe 405 00:17:48,850 --> 00:17:45,170 everything that you're told off the 406 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:48,860 record folks you know you're you're not 407 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:51,430 being let in on this the secret 408 00:17:56,380 --> 00:17:54,050 important knowledge yeah now-now yeah 409 00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:56,390 that is not what's happening but it 410 00:17:59,800 --> 00:17:57,620 would be interesting to see what the 411 00:18:01,060 --> 00:17:59,810 Blumenthal turns up if he does decide to 412 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:01,070 dig a little closer 413 00:18:07,870 --> 00:18:04,670 along with Leslie Kean who a number of 414 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:07,880 years ago believe it was like 2008 ish 415 00:18:11,140 --> 00:18:09,680 somewhere in that ballpark she was the 416 00:18:14,170 --> 00:18:11,150 one who actually sort of went public 417 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:14,180 with the original story not not related 418 00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:16,430 to the Wilson notes that's a a fairly 419 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:20,240 recent development but the original 420 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:26,450 Greer Wilson Edgar Mitchell and will 421 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:28,850 Miller and a number of others a briefing 422 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:34,330 meeting in in in with Admiral Wilson and 423 00:18:39,790 --> 00:18:37,610 that happened and then of course the the 424 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:39,800 aftermath the follow up by Wilson is a 425 00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:40,910 part of the story 426 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,780 apparently Greer 427 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:44,880 and or Mitchell got wind well but they 428 00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:46,860 both did eventually I'm not sure who who 429 00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:49,500 got it first but eventually they got 430 00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:52,440 wind of this follow-up they had been 431 00:18:57,290 --> 00:18:54,900 told that you know Wilson did follow-up 432 00:18:59,930 --> 00:18:57,300 and that basically the scenario that's 433 00:19:01,520 --> 00:18:59,940 laid out within the quote unquote Wilson 434 00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:01,530 notes is confirmed by Wilson in the 435 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:04,080 notes I mean that's you know and 436 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:05,880 obviously that's a highly questionable 437 00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:10,590 and I'm not 100% sure that what greer or 438 00:19:16,910 --> 00:19:12,600 a mitchell were told was 100% accurate 439 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:16,920 but you know they believed it and that 440 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:18,810 that word got the keen and as she wrote 441 00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:20,520 it up in a Boston Globe article 442 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:22,230 apparently that got out in the number of 443 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:24,690 people contacted and mer Wilson and as a 444 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:26,370 result that he was not too happy about 445 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:28,140 that so that's the way that ended I 446 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:31,220 would hope that some people who could 447 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:33,750 find out a little bit more some folks 448 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:36,750 who have all excuse me a little bit more 449 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:39,960 in the way of resources can dig into the 450 00:19:47,810 --> 00:19:41,940 story a little bit more and find out 451 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:47,820 more again excuse me again you know I 452 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:50,730 heard grant go through the the litany of 453 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,370 some of the questions that we've raised 454 00:19:58,340 --> 00:19:54,960 here never mentioning is by name of 455 00:20:00,440 --> 00:19:58,350 course but the the litany of things that 456 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:00,450 we went through here of course the 457 00:20:05,570 --> 00:20:02,850 number one is that yeah you haven't even 458 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:05,580 be able to prove that Wilson was in Las 459 00:20:12,020 --> 00:20:08,130 Vegas on that particular day and I think 460 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:12,030 was sometime in October of 2004 I 461 00:20:15,290 --> 00:20:13,650 believe it was I don't have the date in 462 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:15,300 front of me but somewhere in that 463 00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:17,010 timeframe it's all on the Wilson docks 464 00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:19,020 and you know if you contact me I'll I'll 465 00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:21,000 get you what I got I'll you know else 466 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:22,470 I'll send you all the docs that I've got 467 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:24,120 so you can read through it or it's still 468 00:20:28,370 --> 00:20:26,070 probably up over on Inger or wherever it 469 00:20:30,140 --> 00:20:28,380 was placed in the first place but yeah I 470 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:30,150 would like to see somebody take a closer 471 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:32,700 look at this and quite frankly you look 472 00:20:35,420 --> 00:20:34,320 at it a little bit more critically 473 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:35,430 somebody with a little bit more 474 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:38,250 resources somebody who you know as 475 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:40,710 somebody with some pull would pick up 476 00:20:44,270 --> 00:20:42,150 the phone if they called as compared to 477 00:20:46,820 --> 00:20:44,280 somebody like me was just a UFO 478 00:20:48,530 --> 00:20:46,830 podcaster and you know runs a website in 479 00:20:51,710 --> 00:20:48,540 a Facebook group that's not that big a 480 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:51,720 deal I'm sure the people who you know 481 00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:53,430 have government experience aren't 482 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,900 necessarily going to pick up the phone 483 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:56,400 when I give a call but 484 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,050 yeah would be nice if they did but they 485 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:00,480 don't so it's left to that sometimes 486 00:21:05,710 --> 00:21:03,210 some of these people who via who were 487 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:05,720 hooked up with the more mainstream 488 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,770 publications of the more mainstream 489 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:09,840 media outlets they'll get their phone 490 00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:11,850 calls answered and it would be good if 491 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:15,240 somebody took a closer look and got some 492 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:17,610 some real answers about what was going 493 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:19,650 on what was going on back in that 494 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:21,600 timeframe I mean I honestly don't know 495 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:23,490 you know I would like to know certainly 496 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:25,380 something was going on I just don't 497 00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:27,090 think that though the Wilson documents 498 00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:29,460 are our the Wilson notes are an accurate 499 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:32,040 representation of what actually happened 500 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:34,050 although again you know some some very 501 00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:35,910 interesting names were dropped in those 502 00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:40,020 notes and you know where did they come 503 00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:42,270 from that did they did they come from 504 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:44,700 the truth that from Admiral Wilson's 505 00:21:49,670 --> 00:21:47,310 lips did they come from an article in 506 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:49,680 Jane's Defence weekly that that provided 507 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:51,510 a lot of the background research that 508 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:53,610 could well be that was published before 509 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:55,770 these notes were possibly put together 510 00:22:06,140 --> 00:21:57,900 so we will see we will see how all that 511 00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:06,150 plays out now also within the last a 512 00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:08,070 little bit more than a week I had the 513 00:22:14,210 --> 00:22:10,350 opportunity to watch the third 514 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:14,220 installment of the Steven Greer trilogy 515 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:17,100 this one is called Close Encounters of 516 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:21,120 the fifth kind and this first movie was 517 00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:23,850 serious which was kind of a jumbled mess 518 00:22:29,780 --> 00:22:26,580 a somewhat disappointing the last film 519 00:22:33,410 --> 00:22:29,790 was unacknowledged a little bit better 520 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:33,420 although he did lean a little bit too 521 00:22:39,170 --> 00:22:36,740 much on Rick Doty who fortunately isn't 522 00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:39,180 featured quite as prominently in this 523 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:41,700 particular film and also that film well 524 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:43,590 leans a little bit too much on again a 525 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:46,110 faked up document basically a claiming 526 00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:48,800 that Marilyn Monroe was murdered because 527 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:52,350 JFK told her too much about UFOs while 528 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:55,890 he was banging her so I've had that 529 00:23:00,770 --> 00:22:58,890 other aside from that though the the 530 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:00,780 unacknowledged movie was definitely 531 00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:03,060 better than the serious movie and this 532 00:23:06,529 --> 00:23:04,590 one this is 533 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,539 it may be somewhere in the middle it 534 00:23:11,269 --> 00:23:08,400 started very strong though I have to 535 00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:11,279 admit basically greer takes roughly the 536 00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:13,940 first quarter to a third of the movie 537 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:16,919 talking about where the UFO subject is 538 00:23:23,899 --> 00:23:20,880 today basically in this t TSA era that 539 00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:23,909 we're in now and basically he goes about 540 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:25,799 and he rips them pretty good 541 00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:29,250 basically that it is you know if well 542 00:23:34,250 --> 00:23:30,659 what I've been saying I've been calling 543 00:23:37,539 --> 00:23:34,260 it fear porn he is saying it's simply 544 00:23:40,639 --> 00:23:37,549 leading us up to a false flag invasion 545 00:23:41,899 --> 00:23:40,649 staged by the military-industrial 546 00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:41,909 complex 547 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:44,190 to what end I'm not really sure but he 548 00:23:48,919 --> 00:23:46,730 says this is what's going to happen 549 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:48,929 obviously highly skeptical of that claim 550 00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:50,970 although it has been around a while it 551 00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:55,080 that goes back at least to a book called 552 00:24:00,799 --> 00:23:57,630 the secret team written by a guy named 553 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:00,809 Fletcher Prouty who worked on staff for 554 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:05,450 JFK and wrote this book basically 555 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:09,260 savaging the the Intel complex and 556 00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:11,700 although Greer doesn't mention him by 557 00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:15,000 name I believe that's where that claim 558 00:24:22,130 --> 00:24:17,820 sort of started that that there's going 559 00:24:24,889 --> 00:24:22,140 to be a false flag et invasion staged by 560 00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:24,899 these these people who you know frankly 561 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:28,260 I don't think have the the the means or 562 00:24:32,779 --> 00:24:31,049 the talent to pull off such a thing but 563 00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:32,789 either but otherwise that's what he's 564 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:35,220 claiming and of course I Greer is a very 565 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,450 Pro et contact obviously he's all in it 566 00:24:44,389 --> 00:24:41,039 as we see a nice picture here he's like 567 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:44,399 he he's praying I'm not sure exactly who 568 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:47,250 to is he praying to et is he I'm not 569 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:48,570 really sure is he praying that people 570 00:24:52,610 --> 00:24:50,820 are going to buy this movie and cover 571 00:24:56,419 --> 00:24:52,620 the the production costs and maybe turn 572 00:24:59,419 --> 00:24:56,429 a profit not really sure here he leans a 573 00:25:02,360 --> 00:24:59,429 little bit more towards the how can I 574 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,370 say it the the spiritual side in a lot 575 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,520 of it but again the first third to a 576 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:07,380 quarter a quarter to a third of the 577 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:09,120 movie is a pretty strong he does a 578 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:10,190 pretty good job 579 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:14,190 ripping TTS a and I think his criticisms 580 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:16,170 are valid I've made them made 581 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:18,780 pretty much the same ones here myself a 582 00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:21,270 number of times it does seem a little 583 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:23,880 odd that I'm more in agreement with 584 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:26,160 Steven Greer than I am with TTS a as 585 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,530 since you know they've gotten a lot done 586 00:25:31,550 --> 00:25:30,000 they've gotten a lot more done over the 587 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:31,560 last couple years certainly than Steven 588 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,240 Greer has he might have had a good run 589 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:35,580 back in the 90s but you know he wasn't 590 00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:36,930 getting stories in the New York Times 591 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:41,100 and on the various networks and his own 592 00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:44,430 TV show he has been able to sort of self 593 00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:46,470 fund and that prepay for a few different 594 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:48,180 movies that seems to be his model now 595 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:50,250 and and good luck to him like I said he 596 00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:51,810 seems to be getting the hang of the film 597 00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:54,270 making yeah he's better at it now the 598 00:25:59,660 --> 00:25:58,140 first one was a misfire for sure but the 599 00:26:01,640 --> 00:25:59,670 last two have certainly been better 600 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:01,650 certainly worth a look and again the 601 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:03,270 strongest part is the first part of the 602 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:06,840 film where he does really zero in on the 603 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:10,410 the TTS a effort and their effort to 604 00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:13,880 sort of steer the narrative towards 605 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:16,620 threatening et which is again that's 606 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:17,970 something I think is complete nonsense 607 00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:21,450 now he's very strong on this and not 608 00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:23,430 that so much because it's him because 609 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:25,350 we've all seen plenty of Steven Greer 610 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:27,090 we've also seen plenty of this guy over 611 00:26:30,260 --> 00:26:28,710 the years Daniel XI and although not 612 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,270 nearly as much as Greene 613 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:33,120 so what the Sheehan was very effective 614 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,330 he's obviously very anti the the 615 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:38,400 military-industrial complex and he's 616 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:40,410 very articulate he's very solid and 617 00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:42,570 during that that part of the movie 618 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,760 especially leaning particularly on 619 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Sheehan it it's solid I mean it's a it's 620 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:50,730 a very solid counterpoint to what TTS a 621 00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:53,130 is doing and again I think it's the best 622 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,030 part of the movie 623 00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:57,360 now after that part it did kind of I get 624 00:27:02,420 --> 00:26:59,700 the sort of a material that I've seen 625 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:02,430 before whether this is the right movie 626 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:04,500 for you or not I guess depends on you 627 00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:05,970 know how closely you've been following 628 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:08,550 Greer a lot of this material won't be 629 00:27:15,290 --> 00:27:11,250 original it'll be a little bit redundant 630 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:15,300 and not especially interesting again 631 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:17,130 because you know we've seen this before 632 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:18,960 we've heard this before you know a guru 633 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:20,370 who's been out there a while and he's 634 00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:21,810 been saying a lot of things so there's a 635 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:24,300 not too much new here for the die-hard 636 00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:28,809 but still that the first half-hour or so 637 00:27:32,249 --> 00:27:30,700 just on its own with that was but I 638 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:32,259 would say it's worth a look even to the 639 00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:33,850 die-hard who knows a lot you know just 640 00:27:37,619 --> 00:27:35,860 that depends on your point of view a lot 641 00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:37,629 of people throw everything out on greer 642 00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:39,990 obviously we've seen them more recently 643 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:44,139 with the the wilson notes fake as i 644 00:27:49,619 --> 00:27:47,230 think that they are you bring to the 645 00:27:51,239 --> 00:27:49,629 fore the fact that greer was doing some 646 00:27:53,789 --> 00:27:51,249 really good work back in the nineties he 647 00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:53,799 did get into the face of james Woolsey 648 00:27:59,129 --> 00:27:55,960 the CIA director he did get into the 649 00:28:01,200 --> 00:27:59,139 face of Thomas Wilson who was the 650 00:28:02,909 --> 00:28:01,210 intelligence she I forget its exact 651 00:28:04,830 --> 00:28:02,919 title but he was a top guy in military 652 00:28:06,509 --> 00:28:04,840 intelligence back in those days he did 653 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:06,519 get in those people's faces he did get a 654 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:09,970 lot together and since then you know he 655 00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:13,570 you know he is where he is but someone 656 00:28:17,489 --> 00:28:15,399 who see you generally keeps sticking to 657 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:17,499 making these types of films you know 658 00:28:22,499 --> 00:28:19,929 he's got he's got a valid role in the 659 00:28:25,499 --> 00:28:22,509 field again I think that what he 660 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:25,509 presents in the first again 30 to 40 661 00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:27,610 minutes of the movie is a message that's 662 00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:29,169 well worth hearing if that makes a nice 663 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:33,039 counterpoint to TTS a and then as the 664 00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:35,289 film goes on again he gets into some 665 00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:37,029 more well-worn ground a more about 666 00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:41,860 consciousness he does he does bring in 667 00:28:45,899 --> 00:28:43,720 some people was nice to see a people who 668 00:28:48,629 --> 00:28:45,909 have been on this show he had a lot of 669 00:28:51,419 --> 00:28:48,639 the video from of a different 670 00:28:52,739 --> 00:28:51,429 quote-unquote UFO sightings obviously 671 00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:52,749 some of them were pretty easy to pick 672 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:55,929 out and and figure out what they were 673 00:29:00,180 --> 00:28:57,730 some others were more interesting I 674 00:29:01,889 --> 00:29:00,190 noticed that he had a clip in there from 675 00:29:03,629 --> 00:29:01,899 Rob Freeman who's been on the show where 676 00:29:06,269 --> 00:29:03,639 Rama obviously goes out and shoots a lot 677 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:06,279 of video at night and he's gotten some 678 00:29:09,869 --> 00:29:08,289 interesting stuff but most of it there 679 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,879 well it looked good it looked really 680 00:29:16,019 --> 00:29:12,159 good on it looked really good on that 681 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:16,029 the big-screen TV but that and that 682 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:18,070 that's about it helped it helped that as 683 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:19,570 far as the visuals go and you can kind 684 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,830 of look at it while you're listening to 685 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,960 what's going on and see what is that 686 00:29:26,129 --> 00:29:24,399 okay well those look like Chinese 687 00:29:28,619 --> 00:29:26,139 lanterns and as they go boop boop boop 688 00:29:30,989 --> 00:29:28,629 and each flicker off one two three well 689 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:30,999 they were probably Chinese lanterns but 690 00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:32,169 there's some other good stuff in there 691 00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:36,299 so that part visually especially with 692 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:39,789 the curious lights in the sky type of 693 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:41,230 videos it made it more 694 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:43,690 interesting not that all those videos or 695 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:45,610 even most of those videos or even some 696 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:47,290 of those videos were actual et 697 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:49,570 spacecraft but again it was interesting 698 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:52,990 also a Johar's and jump Danny told his 699 00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:55,900 famous Ben rich story regarding a 700 00:30:01,860 --> 00:29:58,840 corralling Ben and lecture and asked him 701 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:01,870 about UFOs and so that anecdote was 702 00:30:08,130 --> 00:30:05,260 included in there but again the last 2/3 703 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:08,140 to 3/4 of the film might seem a little 704 00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:10,750 redundant might be kicking over some old 705 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,160 ground that you might be familiar with 706 00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:14,080 but if you're less familiar with Greer 707 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:15,460 and his message this is probably a 708 00:30:19,049 --> 00:30:17,559 pretty good movie for you I would do it 709 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:19,059 I would recommend it and again I think 710 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:21,040 for anybody certainly that first that 711 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:23,260 quarter to a third of the movie is well 712 00:30:28,260 --> 00:30:25,809 worth taking a closer look at so that's 713 00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:28,270 my review of that again I give it to you 714 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:30,400 know a qualified when I give it a thumbs 715 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:32,410 up I do I gotta give it a thumbs up 716 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:34,360 especially for the first part and then 717 00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,130 sort of a qualified thumbs up for 718 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:38,559 thereafter like I say there won't be any 719 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:40,450 new surprises if you're familiar with 720 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:43,929 Greer but it's still worth a look and he 721 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:45,850 is getting the hang of putting together 722 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:48,400 a pretty good a pretty good documentary 723 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:51,010 movie and I guess maybe that's his new 724 00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:53,049 model every every two or three or four 725 00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:55,540 years or whatever the case may be he's 726 00:31:00,060 --> 00:30:57,190 going to have a concept and put together 727 00:31:01,470 --> 00:31:00,070 a new film and that would be okay that's 728 00:31:05,549 --> 00:31:01,480 a that's a pretty good position for him 729 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:05,559 to be in and he's got his his viewpoint 730 00:31:08,430 --> 00:31:07,809 and obviously its controversial and a 731 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,440 lot of people 732 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:11,679 just don't like him I think a lot of 733 00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:13,210 people probably throw out the baby with 734 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:15,700 the bathwater because there is there's 735 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:17,049 still some good stuff in there 736 00:31:21,450 --> 00:31:19,330 although sometimes you do have to cut 737 00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:21,460 through it with a machete to get to it 738 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:23,980 but it is still there so Greer's a voice 739 00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:25,510 in the field I think he's worth 740 00:31:29,549 --> 00:31:27,910 listening to to a point there are some 741 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:29,559 other points where it's worth tuning him 742 00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:32,650 out or you know just the fact that it's 743 00:31:38,610 --> 00:31:36,549 a you know we've seen it so but I'm not 744 00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,620 sure that that's who this movie was made 745 00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:40,240 for is probably made for you know a 746 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:44,340 relatively new to this particular field 747 00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:47,770 audience and I think they'll generally I 748 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:50,860 think I knew somebody was some really 749 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:53,110 new to Greer who's maybe a little bit 750 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:54,610 familiar with him we'll probably like it 751 00:31:58,110 --> 00:31:56,110 will probably like it so yeah I would 752 00:31:59,820 --> 00:31:58,120 give this a you know sort of a qualified 753 00:32:03,840 --> 00:31:59,830 with some reservations under certain 754 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:03,850 circumstances thumbs up on this and 755 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:05,890 finally I'm going to touch on a subject 756 00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:08,890 I rarely get into and that is dealing 757 00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:12,750 with the the negative sort of anti UFO 758 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:15,040 debunking crowd 759 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,110 I really don't deal with it too much I 760 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:18,640 mean there's there's a few of them out 761 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:21,130 there and this fellow here at Keith 762 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:24,970 klore who wrote an article for intercept 763 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:28,080 the intercept last year regarding a 764 00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:31,600 Elizondo and his and the the 765 00:32:35,549 --> 00:32:33,280 back-and-forth of regarding whether or 766 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:35,559 not he was actually running a UFO 767 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:37,690 program in the Pentagon and now he's 768 00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:40,390 moved over to Wired magazine and is 769 00:32:45,419 --> 00:32:42,520 asking will the New York Times ever stop 770 00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:45,429 reporting on UFOs so basically obviously 771 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:48,340 all that that was pretty well cleared up 772 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,650 regarding elizondo's involvement in 773 00:32:56,490 --> 00:32:52,720 terms of actually running the a tech 774 00:33:00,299 --> 00:32:56,500 program and since he was pretty well 775 00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:00,309 shut down over that particular bit of 776 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:03,220 debunker II and proved wrong he's now 777 00:33:10,169 --> 00:33:06,160 jumping over in attacking the times here 778 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:10,179 and again you know here's a guy who and 779 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:12,070 unfortunately we do see too much of this 780 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:14,169 a guy who just does not have his back 781 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:15,970 straight has not done the work and 782 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:17,380 honestly doesn't know what he's talking 783 00:33:22,350 --> 00:33:20,110 about here they are quote an interesting 784 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:22,360 quote uh from the article and yet there 785 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:24,460 is not a peep and all this sensational 786 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,770 reporting from concerned military brass 787 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:29,440 an area call for further investigation 788 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:31,750 from national security walks you can 789 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:33,790 search the credential defense industry 790 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:36,610 press which covers every Pentagon policy 791 00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:38,350 procurement and turf battle of minut 792 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,600 detail and be hard-pressed to find any 793 00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:42,880 mention of wily UFOs that have been 794 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:45,580 menacing naval aviators but that's the 795 00:33:51,419 --> 00:33:47,110 story coming out of the paper of record 796 00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:51,429 for almost three years now well that is 797 00:33:57,510 --> 00:33:53,580 a pretty much complete misrepresentation 798 00:34:00,930 --> 00:33:57,520 of the situation now for a few reasons 799 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:00,940 number one is obviously Elizondo has 800 00:34:04,629 --> 00:34:02,500 talked pretty openly about they're 801 00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:04,639 having a tough time 802 00:34:08,619 --> 00:34:06,830 more people interested in the subject 803 00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:08,629 but when people are interested in the 804 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,720 subject so so that's not a surprise but 805 00:34:14,859 --> 00:34:12,800 when people are interested in the 806 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:14,869 subject they get very interested in the 807 00:34:21,730 --> 00:34:19,010 subject and as we found out here through 808 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:21,740 various and sundry four-year requests we 809 00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:23,990 went into this in that great detail when 810 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:26,149 we had Christian Lambright on talking 811 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:27,649 about his four-year request along with a 812 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:31,970 de Betty and John Aldrich basically what 813 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:35,569 the the response that he got not clever 814 00:34:39,609 --> 00:34:37,490 regarding a slide presentation that 815 00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:39,619 top-secret would cause exceptionally 816 00:34:44,919 --> 00:34:42,260 grave damage to the national security of 817 00:34:47,260 --> 00:34:44,929 the United States so yeah you don't see 818 00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:47,270 that from the press you've got to have 819 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:49,399 somebody who really knows about UFOs who 820 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:51,770 knows the right buttons to push and they 821 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:53,450 get an answer in one way or another the 822 00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:55,280 answer is telling whether they get the 823 00:35:01,059 --> 00:34:57,230 documents that they for you or whether 824 00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:01,069 they get denied but either way the the 825 00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:02,780 answers are often telling and quite 826 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:04,579 frankly people in the mainstream press 827 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:06,770 even the military press aren't pursuing 828 00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:10,220 this story very few of them are so so 829 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:12,680 there's there's that point again there's 830 00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:14,750 the the response that Christian got a 831 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:18,140 little bit more detail but when what you 832 00:35:23,319 --> 00:35:20,569 see from these negative is is that you 833 00:35:27,309 --> 00:35:23,329 don't get a complete story you don't get 834 00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:27,319 the complete facts you get a partial 835 00:35:31,809 --> 00:35:30,200 story incomplete facts it's why I'll use 836 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,819 this an example when you get this sworn 837 00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:34,880 in a to the court now you swear if 838 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:35,960 you're going to be a witness so you 839 00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:38,780 swear to tell the truth the whole truth 840 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:41,270 see and when you get that from somebody 841 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:42,079 like klore 842 00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:43,490 and you also get that on the other side 843 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:45,319 of things that from somebody like don't 844 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:47,510 want to when when they're Pro UFOs you 845 00:35:52,089 --> 00:35:49,730 don't get the whole truth you get a 846 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:52,099 shaded truth you get an incomplete truth 847 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:54,770 now this came out and I way in fairness 848 00:36:00,520 --> 00:35:57,010 to clora this didn't come out until 849 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:00,530 right afterwards until after his story 850 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:03,550 in Wired was published but now here's a 851 00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:07,880 response from sue Gao I believe is how 852 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:09,560 we would pronounce that name pentagon 853 00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:12,050 spokesperson the US Navy and Department 854 00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:13,700 of Defense take these reports very 855 00:36:18,010 --> 00:36:16,040 seriously and investigate each and every 856 00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:18,020 report documented 857 00:36:22,090 --> 00:36:19,790 ports of sightings by military personnel 858 00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:22,100 form the basis for the investigation 859 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:24,800 process the investigation of UAP 860 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,400 sightings by the multi-agency task force 861 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:31,040 is ongoing now that of course was a very 862 00:36:36,670 --> 00:36:33,530 interesting every multi-agency task 863 00:36:40,090 --> 00:36:36,680 force so yeah we've heard about this 864 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:40,100 inside team it was certainly certainly 865 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:43,160 presented in the last episode of the 866 00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:44,570 last season the first season of 867 00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:47,480 unidentified and is that is that the 868 00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:49,670 same crew this multi-agency task force 869 00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:51,590 is that the same crew that Elizondo is 870 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:53,720 going to meet with well I don't know we 871 00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:55,690 don't know that for sure but 872 00:37:01,630 --> 00:36:58,730 investigation of UF UAP sightings by the 873 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,640 multi-agency task force that a very 874 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:04,160 telling quote and again it should not be 875 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:06,290 surprising to anyone because let's face 876 00:37:12,910 --> 00:37:09,290 it it's the military's job to get up in 877 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:12,920 the air whether it's an Air Force Navy 878 00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:15,410 who's ever got planes it's their job to 879 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:17,240 get up in the air and take a closer look 880 00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:19,790 if something unidentified is in the area 881 00:37:24,490 --> 00:37:21,830 and that's what they're supposed to be 882 00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:24,500 doing and this sort of work with the 883 00:37:28,810 --> 00:37:26,870 UFOs it's been going on for decades and 884 00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:28,820 that's about where we're at with that 885 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:31,280 and that's about it 886 00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:34,010 oh one one one other thing here and 887 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:37,220 actually let's see I believe that oh 888 00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:40,250 yeah Tom Tom Rogan who is really doing 889 00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:42,350 us some top work host of The McLaughlin 890 00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:45,140 group and writes for the Washington 891 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:46,940 Examiner and of course he's been a guest 892 00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:50,960 on the show here too and that he touched 893 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:52,580 on why most journalists and don't want 894 00:37:56,590 --> 00:37:54,170 to cover UFOs and this is an interesting 895 00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,600 quote and I think I'm very telling as 896 00:38:00,760 --> 00:37:58,640 well if it were serious why isn't 897 00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:00,770 everybody talking about it in turn most 898 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:02,950 journalists are prefer deterred from 899 00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:05,210 considering the issue there are two 900 00:38:09,610 --> 00:38:07,070 understandable reasons for this for a 901 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:09,620 start the UFO phenomenon just seems too 902 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:11,450 weird and too unbelievable they I can 903 00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:13,370 respect that and that's my comment here 904 00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:15,620 they are a most observers think probably 905 00:38:19,450 --> 00:38:17,540 just elements of overexcited 906 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:19,460 imaginations and unusual weather 907 00:38:23,770 --> 00:38:21,530 conditions a few journalists want to 908 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:23,780 write on an issue that will earn far 909 00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:25,580 more laughter from their colleagues than 910 00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:27,260 it will the prospect of pew Lancers 911 00:38:31,579 --> 00:38:29,600 that's a car that's a particular problem 912 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:31,589 here after all to cover this issue 913 00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:33,390 you must be willing to enter what CIA 914 00:38:38,539 --> 00:38:35,849 Spy Hunter James Angleton called 915 00:38:40,729 --> 00:38:38,549 the wilderness of mirrors a place where 916 00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:40,739 lies and truth are always colliding and 917 00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,390 even at the best of times 918 00:38:47,479 --> 00:38:44,960 provide more questions than answers and 919 00:38:49,279 --> 00:38:47,489 yeah that he put that a little bit 920 00:38:50,749 --> 00:38:49,289 better than I possibly could because 921 00:38:54,349 --> 00:38:50,759 that's exactly what we're dealing with 922 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:54,359 and if you're more actively involved in 923 00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:56,729 that the UFO stuff boy you see it and 924 00:39:03,709 --> 00:38:59,700 some of those mirrors are created just 925 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:03,719 for UFO researchers by people who have 926 00:39:09,499 --> 00:39:05,700 been involved in this field and just 927 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:09,509 like to play games and that's that's 928 00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:11,940 what we're dealing with so in summation 929 00:39:16,759 --> 00:39:15,150 I would say to all of you obviously keep 930 00:39:19,339 --> 00:39:16,769 your guard up protect yourself at all 931 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,349 times don't believe everything you see 932 00:39:23,029 --> 00:39:21,900 and hear and read but there is some 933 00:39:25,999 --> 00:39:23,039 truth in there somewhere 934 00:39:27,979 --> 00:39:26,009 so keep digging for it and that's that's 935 00:39:30,859 --> 00:39:27,989 my wrap-up we're probably going to see a 936 00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:30,869 first episode of unidentified I'm gonna 937 00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:32,609 have to guess it's going to be at some 938 00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:35,430 point in June and I'll be reviewing it 939 00:39:38,329 --> 00:39:36,839 that might have some guests on to do 940 00:39:40,999 --> 00:39:38,339 that with me might not you never know 941 00:39:43,759 --> 00:39:41,009 and we'll be back when the time is right